Damn!

[Bskey]

According to CNNMoney.com

"But the biggest fuel saver is driving the speed limit and driving sensibly. Rapid starts and stops and exceeding the speed limit will dent your pocketbook. Just by adhering to one of those, the Department of Energy estimates that drivers can save anywhere between 15 and 98 cents a gallon, again assuming pump prices are at $2.97 a gallon."

http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/09/pf/gas_myths/index.htm?postversion=2007051512

Why cant they have tips for guys like me who simply cannot adhere to modern day speed limits, and whose foot must be regularly stomped on either the gas or brake pedal! :lol:

[SubieChik]

I don't think my car goes the speed limit....it just laughs at me :lol:

[Dookie]

speed limit :confused:

[SubieDriver]

speed limit :confused:

Oops. All this time I thought they were the speed MINIMUMS. (as in: lower limit, not upper limit) My car won't let me go any slower.

[SubieChik]

:bs: I think they are full of **** and just want to tell people that so they go the speed limit. If the speed limit is 70 and I am going 70 what is the difference if the sign up the road says 55MPH and I keep going 70?? NOTHING. Doing the "speed limit" doesn't make you save on gas......drving slow does. That is what they really meant to say. Did I make any sense there at all??

[Bskey]

Huh?

I Like to go fast!

[SubieChik]

That didn't make sense to you?? Man I thought I was very clear with what I said :( Now granted I don't care about saving money on gas so it doesn't matter how fast I drive :D

[Bskey]

So you're saying you like to go 70?

[SubieChik]

Yes.........at least:lol:

[SubieDriver]

So you're saying you like to go 70?

Well,... yeah,... that's about my speed on in town streets. Now on the highway, it's a different story.... :D


I heard it said once that the highways were designed for 90, so I like to test that out regularly, just to make sure they haven't changed anything. For the most part, they haven't so far. :lol:

[Bskey]

I think I understand now!

[TSi+WRX]

I think that for those of us with modified vehicles, we simply have to seek our own "best economy" when it comes to driving speeds/habits.

I tend to see the highest fuel-economy when cruising at around 75 MPH, which is probably a combination of the stock gearing, the more open intake/exhaust tract, as well as how all of this combines with my current tune parameters.

The car even seems to do better there on a subjective "driving feel" basis.

[Bskey]

I get the best fuel econimy downhill in neutral, with the wind at my back. Sadly, that's not too often!

[SubieChik]

You could just put it on a trailer and tow it.......now thats good fuel economy.....maybe not for the truck that is towing it:D

[Bskey]

I am getting great mileage right now.....with it parked....waiting for a clutch swap!

[SubieDriver]

I get the best fuel econimy downhill in neutral, with the wind at my back. Sadly, that's not too often!

Well, you could imitate that by accelerating to 80, then coast for a while, then repeat.

[Bskey]

Then the tickets I would get would more than make up for the savings in gas due to fuel economy.

[havanisda]

you can improve gas mileage by reducing weight but what is out there to reduce weight 4 the LGT?

[TSi+WRX]

I need to go on a diet. :o :lol:

[Bskey]

You could take out the back seats......

[ErinSpecB]

If getting better gas milage means I have to slow down...... I better get another job

[SubieDriver]

If getting better gas milage means I have to slow down...... I better get another job

I agree. I'd rather just drive the way I want to, and be willing to refill the tank a little more often. My GT is just too much fun to drive slowly. If I wanted to drive slowly, I would have bought a non-turbo car.

Actually, come to think of it, I drove fast long before I had a turbo! (just not quite as fast...)

[SubieChik]

Same here.

[SubieDriver]

Driving's just too much fun to do it slowly!!

[ErinSpecB]

If they wanted me to drive slowly they wouldn't give me all of these options! Intelli drive... sport... sport sharp... come on now!

[SubieDriver]

If they wanted me to drive slowly they wouldn't give me all of these options! Intelli drive... sport... sport sharp... come on now!

I agree. But they forgot the Warp Drive setting... I want that on mine. :lol:

[Drift Monkey]

driving sensibly? :lol:

[SubieChik]

Has anyone played Midnight Club DUB edition?? If so, don't you wish you could have some ablilities in real life that you do on that game?? For example speeding down he road and knocking people out the way like you are kicking a beach ball. If no one has played this game then excuse me while I go feel like an idiot....lol :lol:

[Bskey]

I seem to have no problem not speeding anymore.........

awww... I mis the LGT!

[SubieDriver]

I seem to have no problem not speeding anymore.........

awww... I mis the LGT!

Once that Legacy STI comes this way, you'll be back in the Subie fold...

[Dookie]

Has anyone played Midnight Club DUB edition?? If so, don't you wish you could have some ablilities in real life that you do on that game?? For example speeding down he road and knocking people out the way like you are kicking a beach ball. If no one has played this game then excuse me while I go feel like an idiot....lol :lol:

Haven't played this one yet, but I've played the 1st & 2nd ones.

[Drift Monkey]

I need to get DUBs for the LGT..

[Dookie]

I think these would look good.

http://static.flickr.com/173/420625847_8b37fb9ec4_m.jpg













:rofl:

[Dookie]

:lol: :lol: Read this!

A dub is a wheel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel) or rim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rim) that is 20 inches in diameter. The term dub is a slang term for twenty (Dub Deuce's = 22's, Dub's = 20's).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] Others believe that the term grew out of the cannabis culture.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] Many people refer to twenty dollars worth of cannabis as a "dub" or "dub sack."[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] Once automotive rims/wheels reached 20" in diameter, people begin to refer to the wheels as doves, and later "dubs."[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] There are many regional terms for expensive, aftermarket wheels, such as "feet" in Florida, "blades" in Texas, and "grown men" in the American South.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] The term "grown men" refers to the American law that makes males "grown" at the age of 21 (they can drink alcohol and attend most nightclubs).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] If the wheels are 21 inches or more, they can be considered "grown men." Rims 30 inches or bigger can be considered TUBS.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)]
Some can be chrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_plating) or polished aluminum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum)-alloy. Rims that are below 20 inches in diameter are referred to as sub-dubs, though this term maybe regional.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources)] "Dub-caps" refer to inexpensive, cheaply made 20 inch wheels marketed towards those who can not afford higher end models."


Can you imagine telling your buddies that your going to purchase some "grown men".

:eek:

[Bu11dogg2]

gas mileage aint **** when you live at work

[SubieChik]

I need to get DUBs for the LGT..

If you put DUBS on your LGT I will puke

[SubieDriver]

If you put DUBS on your LGT I will puke

It would be kinda fun to see, but I sure wouldn't want them on mine!

[Dookie]

Over on .com there was an Australian that had 20" on his LGT. I've tried searching for it, but I can find it. If I find it I'll post it.

[TSi+WRX]

^ I remember that!

I honestly thought that it looked good. :)

[Dookie]

Whaaaaaaa? I thought it looked ghetto and alot of the other members shot him down because of it. It kind of looks like this.....


http://www.eternalcollector.com/crayas/images/Jag%20on%20Dubs.jpg


:tdown:

[TSi+WRX]

^ Damn!

That looks almost like a toy/model car! :lol:

Heck, honestly, in-person, I'd probably give props to that ride......except for the horrendous fit-lie around the front door and those freakish brake-shields.....

Wait, that *IS* a toy car, isn't it? :lol:

[SubieDriver]

I LIKE it!!

Just kidding. But I have always thought that the Legacy wheel wells were a little too large for the stock wheels. Too much gap all the way around. Slightly larger wheels would look good, though maybe 19s rather than 20s.

[SubieDriver]

Wait, that *IS* a toy car, isn't it? :lol:

Sure looks like it. You can see gap around the front doors, so they open, but the rear ones are molded in.

[Dookie]

It's a Jag. toy car from one of those Dub's sites.

[TSi+WRX]

SubieDriver/Dookie


I was also thinking what SubieDriver did- but the other thing that got me was how grainy the driveway seems to be, as well as the HUGE driveway expansion strip. It just doesn't quite look "right" to be a real car.

However, I guess the front door could have such ill-fit if the guy decided to fit one of those aftermarket vertical-door kits.....

[SubieDriver]

Look closely at the difference between the front and rear door gaps. The front gaps are too large to be real. The rears look molded in.

Check out the brake rotors - no calipers, no texture on the rotors.

Check out the hood hinges - if they were life-sized, they would be way oversized for that hood.

It's a toy.

[Dookie]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your right it is a toy, I had to take a close look at it again. First glance it looks real.


My Bad!:p

[TSi+WRX]

Check out the brake rotors - no calipers, no texture on the rotors.

I thought that might have been one of those aftermarket brake-dust covers. :)


Check out the hood hinges - if they were life-sized, they would be way oversized for that hood.

Good catch!!!

[Drift Monkey]

Over on .com there was an Australian that had 20" on his LGT. I've tried searching for it, but I can find it. If I find it I'll post it.
20s are too small...

[SubieDriver]

20s are too small...

So let's see some pics of yours with 24s! (think they'd fit?)

[Dookie]

Yeah that^^

http://static.flickr.com/170/383177437_765a20aabf_m.jpg

[Dookie]

http://static.flickr.com/56/191789795_7323866349_m.jpg

[Dookie]

Damon over on .com has 19" on his LGT and is selling them for:

volk CE28s 19x8.5 gun metal +43 $3000

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce24b3127ccebdb1de4c719a00000026100AZtHDZo1bt2 KA

[KA82]

sweet~

[SubieDriver]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7ce24b3127ccebdb1de4c719a00000026100AZtHDZo1bt2 KA

See how nicely they fill out the wheel wells? The 17s and 18s just leave too much room. If I didn't already have mine lowered, I'd try 19s when I next buy wheels and tires.

Nice pic.

[KA82]

dooks, the only thing missing from the cat sig is, he's not scratching his ballz

[Dookie]

^^ I know, but at least he places his paws over his crouch...:lol:

[TSi+WRX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NmZzh4-F8&mode=related&search=

^ Those have gotta be at least 19s......

[Dookie]

Was it even a GT? No hood scoop. It had a 6 gear manual though.

[TSi+WRX]

^ I dunno - but whatever it is, it's reading a lot faster road-speed than what a factory USDM LGT can accomplish.

Even on a car with a "relaxed" governor, I don't think anyone who is stock has seen over 140 MPH, road-speed. And even if this guys tires were truly that much "bigger" in diameter, I'd still wager to say that there's no way to see over 150 MPH on a stock car....and that's way below what that speedo spun-over to on the KPH scale.

I wonder what's been done to that car, exactly. ?

[Dookie]

No kidding, the tach max out at 260km which means he was doing 161 mph.:eek: That's def. no NA engine under the hood, unless he has a killer NOS system.

[SubieDriver]

Was it even a GT? No hood scoop. It had a 6 gear manual though.

It's most likely a 3.0R - most other markets can get it with the 6MT, unlike USDM.

If we could get that here, I'd make my own Legacy STI. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to turbocharge it...

[Dookie]

Ah yes, the 3.0L. I keep forgetting that those have come out.

[SubieDriver]

Ah yes, the 3.0L. I keep forgetting that those have come out.

I was drooling over the 3.0R w/ 6MT for almost a year before decided I couldn't wait anymore, so I broke down and bought my GT last year. Then, a few months later, I heard they were finally bringing it here. By then I was already addicted to the torque of the turbo, so I didn't regret my decision at all.
Now, if they turbocharge that six and bring the 6MT... :beer::evilbanana::D

[Dookie]

Now, if they turbocharge that six and bring the 6MT... :beer::evilbanana::D

That would be cool, but I've always been a huge fan of 4 bangers, turbo's or non. I was a true ricer back in the early 90's, ricing out everything from Suzuki's to Honda's. Ahhh good times.

[TSi+WRX]

It's most likely a 3.0R - most other markets can get it with the 6MT, unlike USDM.


Great point.

Huh....I wonder if the governor/limiter isn't the same in the 3.0R. I guess I'll have to go test-drive one. :tup:


If we could get that here, I'd make my own Legacy STI. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to turbocharge it...

To that end ->

Anyone here know why Cobb chose to supercharge, instead of turbocharge, the H6-equipped Tribeca?

[SubieDriver]

Anyone here know why Cobb chose to supercharge, instead of turbocharge, the H6-equipped Tribeca?

My guess is because of the wimpy torque the 3.0 has. Add a turbo and you still have wimpy torque down low. The Tribeca isn't light, and benefits from the instant-on torque of a supercharger.

[TSi+WRX]

^ Definitely seems reasonable to me. :)

[Dookie]

Another possiblity could be space too. Most 6's require 2 turbo's to run efficient which requires more piping and tuning. Slapping on a supercharger is a more efficient way for a larger engine, with limited space.

[SubieDriver]

Another possiblity could be space too. Most 6's require 2 turbo's to run efficient which requires more piping and tuning. Slapping on a supercharger is a more efficient way for a larger engine, with limited space.

I believe Jeff Perrin only used one turbo when he shoe-horned the 3.0 into the Impreza STI last year. I'm sure it was a monster turbo though.

I agree that two turbos would be more efficient, as you want the pipes from the heads to the turbo to be as short as possible to minimize heat loss enroute, but our current GTs only have one, so the 3.0 could get by with one just as easily (though it would need to be a bit bigger).

[SubieDriver]

Update:
According to this thread on Nabisco, Jeff used a single GT35R turbo for at least one build of the 3.0:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=959768

[Dookie]

Damn that would be cool to drive. I would like to see how the supercharger will do against it.

[SubieDriver]

I have an idea: Dookie, you build one with a supercharger, and go race Jeff Perrin. :D Since Cobb Tuning already has the experience, I'm sure you could get some good advice from them.

[Dookie]

Don't temp me!!!!!!! Whipple Superchargers are right down the street from me. I'm sure they can create a killer supercharger for the 6.:D I just need some extra donations to get me stated.

[SubieDriver]

:lol: :lol:

I suffer from the same malady - not enough funds.

[Dookie]

I don't even what to know what they charge to do a custom supercharger. Not willing to give up my retirement funds at this point.

[Dookie]

Some pics of Whipple Superchargers.

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/images/productimages/8.1_CustomerPhoto1.jpg

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/images/productimages/8.1_CustomerPhoto2.jpg



FORD GT
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/images/productimages/GT40-Side5-Large.jpg


OH and it sounds so PURDY!...... http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/videos/GT40.MPG

[KA82]

ricer

[Dookie]

Huh????

[SubieDriver]

ricer
Nah, a ricer would bolt a fake supercharger to his hood.
Real superchargers embarass ricers.

[KA82]

That would be cool, but I've always been a huge fan of 4 bangers, turbo's or non. I was a true ricer back in the early 90's, ricing out everything from Suzuki's to Honda's. Ahhh good times.


RICE! ER!

[Dookie]

Poopie eh?

[KA82]

Nookie?

[SubieDriver]

Nookie with Pookie?

[Dookie]

I did it all for the nookie
C'mon
The nookie
C'mon
So you can take that cookie
And stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!

[Bskey]

I like rice w/ soysauce.

[SubieDriver]

Nice Sig, Bskey!!

BTW, Dookie, I made a few attempts at a Legacy front end, and they all turned out badly, which is why I haven't changed my sig lately.

[Bskey]

Thanks, it's a work in progress.....

[Dookie]

I don't get it ^^^^

[Bskey]

what, my sig? It's a first attempt at my 4Runner

[SubieDriver]

I don't get it ^^^^

You're looking at the right-front quarter view. Imagine it's driving towards you at an angle and you'll see it.

[Dookie]

Ooooooooh, I see a little of it now. Bskey going 3D on us.

[SubieDriver]

Ooooooooh, I see a little of it now. Bskey going 3D on us.

Pretty talented, that Bskey...

[Dookie]

I'm not that talented, I'll just stick with my fat cat drinking a beer.:lol:

[KA82]

and ill stick with watching your fat cat drinking beer, MAKE HIM SDCRATCH THE BALLZZ!

or NO SOUP FOR YOU!

[Dookie]

:rofl:

[Bskey]

get your 3D goggles and it will 'wheel all over your keyboard. We need the drunk cat in the 4Runner! Very nice!