View Full Version : Wide enough?
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 06:03 AM
So my tires came in...along with some other parts...:tup:
http://i10.tinypic.com/63uvb0w.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/6fsm3ow.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/62gjepg.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/676djew.jpg
Dookie
08-10-2007, 07:46 AM
:rex1:
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 08:17 AM
damnit....stupid google photos...
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 08:26 AM
Re-upped.
SubieChik
08-10-2007, 08:42 AM
Nice!
Dookie
08-10-2007, 09:37 AM
Those are some fat Falcons! Let me know how they workout, I'm going to needing new tires soon.
Dookie
08-10-2007, 09:37 AM
DBA's FTW
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 09:41 AM
Those are some fat Falcons! Let me know how they workout, I'm going to needing new tires soon.
They work out great. This will be my 3rd or 4th set...first of this size though! :D
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 09:42 AM
DBA's FTW Are you on DBAs?
Dookie
08-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Yup, DBA slotted. Love'em. No more glazed rotors here.
keeping your same wheels?
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 10:13 AM
keeping your same wheels?
The 18s? Naw, I got 17x8.5 Slipstreams. Buy my 18s! :lol:
NALegacy
08-10-2007, 10:46 AM
255s FTW! These are probably much bigger than my 255s tho...:p
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 11:07 AM
255s FTW! These are probably much bigger than my 255s tho...:p You got your wheels back yet or are they still sitting at SAAB's?
TSi+WRX
08-10-2007, 12:27 PM
Nice!!!! :tup: :D
Got a question for ya, bro - how are the 615s in the wet, in terms of high-speed (i.e. highway speeds) straight-line hydroplane resistance?
Drift Monkey
08-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Nice!!!! :tup: :D
Got a question for ya, bro - how are the 615s in the wet, in terms of high-speed (i.e. highway speeds) straight-line hydroplane resistance?
They actually aren't that bad at all when pretty new. As they age, however, they already begin with little tread depth, so they become leary the balder they become.
I've never had a problem until they become really bald...then again most tires would give you that problem if you were to ride them that long...RT615s just start with less tread depth and wear fast due to the compound.
Do I comprimise wet performance? I'd say so, when they start wearing thin, but the performance trade off when dry outweighs it for me, personally.
NALegacy
08-11-2007, 12:43 AM
You got your wheels back yet or are they still sitting at SAAB's?
Didn't have time to pick them up before coming up here to chicago...I called them and told them to take good care of them though:)
TSi+WRX
08-11-2007, 10:52 AM
Thanks for that very frank assessment, DM. :)
Do you street-use these tires as well? If so, would you mind giving me a break-down of percentage AutoX -vs.- street use, and also, an estimate of the mileage you have had with them in the past?
I'm considering these for when my Kooks go. :)
Drift Monkey
08-11-2007, 11:29 AM
Thanks for that very frank assessment, DM. :)
Do you street-use these tires as well? If so, would you mind giving me a break-down of percentage AutoX -vs.- street use, and also, an estimate of the mileage you have had with them in the past?
I'm considering these for when my Kooks go. :)
I street use the tires, and have good luck, although it seems they heat cycle quickly and the compound hardens quickly, but it usually by the time they need to be replaced anyway. I've autoX'd a couple times on them, as well as done a track day and have gotten about 20k or so off of them, with bad alignments. I'd say 20-30k is possible, depending on how hard you drive on the street and your alignment.
Between the kook RS2s, and the 615s, the falkens give much more dry grip and corner stability as it has a stickier compound and harder sidewall, but the RS2 is probably a better street tire considering it's wet performance, and the Kuhmo MX are also a good choice, similar to RS2s.
The tire I'm really intrested in trying are the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01Rs. They look like the best mix of what both RT-615s have to offer, along with the wet performance of RS2s/MXs. They need a 255/40/17 size for me though, and they cost a little too much for my tastes...but look like an excellent tire that I would recommend.
What tire size do you run BTW?
TSi+WRX
08-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Hey bro,
I'm 225/40/18, on 18x8 PFF7s.
I had sorta wanted to try out a 245/35/18 fitment (with Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s, chiefly as one of my main purchase criteria happens to be straight-line high-speed/highway-speed hydroplane resistance), but being that I'm on a stock-strut/iON (mis)match :o , I didn't want to push my luck and have to deal with rubbing.
Besides, Winky's only your typical "Stage II," and I didn't want to burden her with any more unsprung weight, particularly as the PFF7s are kinda porky, themselves.
Since I don't AutoX or track (which is why I have the blingy Rotoras and are still on the stock struts w/iONs), my chief concern with "summer" tires was just that they'd give me a little extra bit of fun, but with an enhanced wet safety quotient, versus all-seasons, when we do get our occasional torrential summer storms. As you well-said, treadwear/tread-depth is the enemy here - regardless of the ultimate tire choice ( although, of course, some tires are just more "street and wet-conditions friendly" than others :) ).
Brother ih8vtech13 highly recommended the MXs, as did a local Subaru enthusiast whom I trust implicitly. However, their reports of that tire being quiet, even as they start to break-away, did discourage me from going that route - as I wanted a bit of "hey, you're being an idiot" kind of protest from the rubber. ;) Certainly, both reported that the breakaway of the MX is very controllable and easy to modulate, however, I truly wanted a bit more of an "idiot light" setup, hence the final choice of the RS2s.
I hope that my RS2s will last me about 20 to 30K miles, particularly as I don't AutoX/track nor drive too aggressively at all. About two and a half summers is all that I really ask of them - and if at that time, nothing new on-market is available, I think that I'd then try out the 615s, and just back-off a bit more in the wet. :)
Drift Monkey
08-11-2007, 02:50 PM
245/35/18 will fit fine, shouldn't rub at all. This is semi-dependant on wheel offset, but I don't forsee any problems running that size. However, competition grade rubber is hard to find at that size. If you want that size, I'd highly recommend Falken FK452s, a very good summer tire with above average wet grip.
I ih8vtec jumped on the MX boat after seeing the awesome deal they were having at tirerack at the time, and I highly recommended them to him, especially for under $100 a pop for 225/40/18! They're sitting at 109 a piece now though, however, which is still a great deal for the tire you're getting.
It's hard to beat the RT615s bang for buck for total dry grip...and it's my personal opinon that you shouldn't me pushing the car so hard in the wet to let the tires determine your overall safety. :lol: I've never had a problem with them, and if you don't drive like an idiot when they start wearing down, you'll be fine. :)
The RE-01s are far out of reach, as are the Advan Neova AD07s, based on pure price. A quick check on Tire Rack shows RE-01s are going for $193.00/per for 225/40/18 and the AD07s a cool $259.00/per...not exactly how much I'd be willing to spend to try them out.
Dookie
08-11-2007, 02:53 PM
Goodyear F1 GS-D3 - FTW
TSi+WRX
08-12-2007, 12:12 PM
245/35/18 will fit fine, shouldn't rub at all. This is semi-dependant on wheel offset, but I don't forsee any problems running that size. However, competition grade rubber is hard to find at that size. If you want that size, I'd highly recommend Falken FK452s, a very good summer tire with above average wet grip.
Agreed. I knew, academically, that the 245/35, on my particular suspension and wheel-offset setup, should've fit, but I just didn't want the hassle of having something strange happen, and having to deal with this. :p :o
I'd honestly looked into the 452s, as well as the GS-D3s and T1-Rs, with this fitment.
The 452s were recommended by a local WRX owner. Although an aggressive street-driver, he also openly confessed to lacking much experience in terms of "summer tires" - that, combined with less-than-stellar reviews from others who've had more sets of dedicated summers under their belts (not only limited to .com, but also via again my local Subaru community and even the lucky run-in I had with a fellow speed-detection countermeasures enthusiast, who had these tires - as well as the GS-D3 and PS2s, in the same fitment, on his AUS-spec LGT), eventually turned me away from them, despite my having wanted a "fatter tires" look and their excellent price-point (not to mention that I've been a devoted fan of the ZIEX ZE-512s as my "winter" tires).
I ih8vtec jumped on the MX boat after seeing the awesome deal they were having at tirerack at the time, and I highly recommended them to him, especially for under $100 a pop for 225/40/18! They're sitting at 109 a piece now though, however, which is still a great deal for the tire you're getting.
Totally.
They're still favorites among the local crowd, despite being "past technology," they still work very, very well for aggressive street-driving. I would've gone with these tires, had their "really quiet behavior" not been something that I finally elected to stay away from.
Given a different set of purchase concerns (here, one of mine was that I'd sometimes have the baby in the car with me when I'd like to have some fun - after-all, Anna likes high-G kind of stuff :tup: :lol: , thus, I wanted the extra "aural safety buffer") - i.e. I wanted a set of tires that'd keep me out of trouble with the law, when it comes to "display of speed" concerns - the MXs would've been a no-brainer.
...and it's my personal opinon that you shouldn't me pushing the car so hard in the wet to let the tires determine your overall safety. :lol:
TOTALLY agreed. :tup:
I've never had a problem with them, and if you don't drive like an idiot when they start wearing down, you'll be fine. :)
I'll definitely log that and keep that in-mind - when I go to the 615s, which is definitely likely, on my next go-around! Thanks! :)
The RE-01s are far out of reach, as are the Advan Neova AD07s, based on pure price. A quick check on Tire Rack shows RE-01s are going for $193.00/per for 225/40/18 and the AD07s a cool $259.00/per...not exactly how much I'd be willing to spend to try them out.
Since I don't AutoX nor track, again, I find myself in a situation that I totally agree with you. To me, the extra dollars spent would simply go to waste, since I wouldn't drive the car nearly aggressive enough on-street to see any kind of difference. :o
Bskey
08-12-2007, 08:30 PM
Nice Tires DM. This thread has a lot to say! +1 more for the DBA's!
Drift Monkey
08-13-2007, 07:02 AM
Unfortunately, it's been so hot here, i haven't had the will do do jack ****. Tripple digits here in Houston with the heat index 110+ during the day!
SubieChik
08-13-2007, 07:07 AM
Same here....but double digits (98/99) with a heat index of 107-110. Too hot!:tdown:
Drift Monkey
08-13-2007, 07:13 AM
Supposed to be 101 today here...it's crazy because you'd figure there is a break in the morning hours, but it's just as damn hot! :tdown:
Bskey
08-13-2007, 08:24 AM
yeah, this heat is not fun! I keep intending to get my motorcycle runniung, then go to the garage, and it's rediculously hot.....damn..... I guess I should be happy I don't have to deal with the humidity you have!
SubieChik
08-13-2007, 08:38 AM
Lol I know what you are talking about with the breaks DM. It's supposed to be 94 here and everyone is like phew a break.....that is still not a break to me but whatever:lol:
Drift Monkey
08-13-2007, 11:14 AM
The month+ of rain needs to come back! :lol:
SubieChik
08-13-2007, 11:29 AM
We have had lilke two days of rain in the last couple months....I am about to do a rain dance here....
Dookie
08-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Can't really complain to much here. It's been about 98 - 100 and dips down to 68 - 70 during the night. It's being a very mild summer for us this yr.
It's normally hotter than a two pecker goat in heat.:lol:
Drift Monkey
08-13-2007, 12:00 PM
CA people can't talk....:jealous:
Bskey
08-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I am about to do a rain dance here....
Video please :lol:
Dookie
08-13-2007, 01:21 PM
CA people can't talk....:jealous:
TX people talk funning (funny).........:notjealous:
Drift Monkey
08-13-2007, 01:26 PM
TX people talk funning (funny).........:notjealous:
About the heat that is...
...I can, however, fake a mean Texas accent...:lol:
Dookie
08-13-2007, 01:39 PM
Oh my bad.:lol:
SubieChik
08-14-2007, 04:23 AM
Video please :lol:
You'll see it on sunday night....Americas Funniest Videos:lol:
Dookie
08-14-2007, 10:57 AM
Careful, don't shake the baby too much.:lol:
SubieChik
08-14-2007, 11:01 AM
Aw it puts him to sleep :lol:
NALegacy
08-22-2007, 01:16 PM
So...Is THIS wide enough?
I finally got my rims back..and my tires put on. For the record, I got my 255s before DriftMonkey:lol:, but he got his mounted up first:p
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6380/crw0370rjtp9.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0370rjtp9.jpg)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8931/crw0368rjpn7.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0368rjpn7.jpg)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5017/crw0371rjhy8.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0371rjhy8.jpg)
Drift Monkey
08-22-2007, 01:17 PM
So...Is THIS wide enough?
I finally got my rims back..and my tires put on. For the record, I got my 255s before DriftMonkey:lol:, but he got his mounted up first:p
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6380/crw0370rjtp9.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0370rjtp9.jpg)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8931/crw0368rjpn7.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0368rjpn7.jpg)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5017/crw0371rjhy8.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crw0371rjhy8.jpg) I've been rollin since Friday. ;) Nice! Need a better "rear shot" to see the total width..
NALegacy
08-22-2007, 01:29 PM
I've been rollin since Friday. ;) Nice! Need a better "rear shot" to see the total width..
So where are the pics of your setup mayn? Get me some pictures. I'd like to see that you took care of those wheels, they mean something to me since I picked them up:lol:
Drift Monkey
08-22-2007, 01:35 PM
So where are the pics of your setup mayn? Get me some pictures. I'd like to see that you took care of those wheels, they mean something to me since I picked them up:lol:
I'll get some tonight for ya. Thanks again for doing the pickup!
+1 for brown boy :tup:
NALegacy
08-22-2007, 01:42 PM
I should just have my username changed to brownboy...who do I PM for that?:lol:
TSi+WRX
08-22-2007, 01:50 PM
Ballers! Both of ya! :)
Drift Monkey
08-22-2007, 01:50 PM
Ballers! Both of ya! :)
It's not to late! Get those 245/35/18s! :D
NALegacy
08-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Ballers! Both of ya! :)
NOt a baller at all. I had to divert funds from other things for these. :tdown: Since I blew out one tire, and had to replace two of the rims, I figured, what the hell, I'm going to go all out.:lol:
Drift Monkey
09-06-2007, 09:31 PM
Well, I got up off my lazy ass to take some pics for you guys (except Dookie).
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6083/img1461ft4.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7840/img1462yk7.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2342/img1463mz2.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9713/img1464nq3.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4492/img1465zp0.jpg
...and some tire shots, but of course...
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5163/img1468vb9.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8168/img1469dn6.jpg
Yeah yeah I know, it just rained and she ain't clean.
Bskey
09-06-2007, 10:18 PM
:drool: I love your car DM! Very nice!
Dookie
09-06-2007, 11:06 PM
Well, I got up off my lazy ass to take some pics for you guys (except Dookie).
About time lazy ass!!
Those are some phat tires! Lookn' good.:tup:
SubieChik
09-07-2007, 04:02 AM
DM is that the RBS front lip??
TSi+WRX
09-07-2007, 05:17 AM
DM, that looks AWESOME! :D
Drift Monkey
09-07-2007, 05:27 AM
DM is that the RBS front lip?? Yeah. :D
Thanks for the kind words guys!
Bskey
09-07-2007, 07:10 AM
You're welcome jerk face......
:stilldrooling:
Dookie
09-07-2007, 07:46 AM
^^:lol:^^
Drift Monkey
09-07-2007, 08:03 AM
You're welcome jerk face......
:stilldrooling:
Thanks for the unkind words!
Bskey
09-07-2007, 09:34 AM
you're welcome cutie pie......
:andStillDrooling:
Dookie
09-07-2007, 11:12 AM
We need to get you a bib Bskey.
Drift Monkey
09-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Bskey likes to slob on my...LGT.
finally pics
looks sweet~
Dookie
09-07-2007, 09:10 PM
I need a front lip like you need to de-amber your turn signals.:p
NALegacy
09-08-2007, 08:22 AM
I need a front lip like you need to de-amber your turn signals.:p
And i need both!
Drift Monkey
09-08-2007, 11:26 AM
I do....I wanna do a retro while I'm at it...
NALegacy
09-08-2007, 05:36 PM
I do....I wanna do a retro while I'm at it...
We need to get this project rolling...
Dookie
09-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah DM get off your lazy ass again. :tup:
drgrip bump
those are some fattys
Bu11dogg2
09-29-2007, 06:35 PM
pictures on teh car?
NALegacy
09-29-2007, 10:24 PM
pictures on teh car?
Post 49.
Hi I'm new to this forum I own a red legacy Gt 2005, any suggestion to modified my car would help, I'm in Chicago.
havanisda
05-27-2009, 08:00 PM
Hi I'm new to this forum I own a red legacy Gt 2005, any suggestion to modified my car would help, I'm in Chicago.Depends on what ya wanna do. Better handing, slo, go or show? How much munnies ya wanna kiss goodbye?
http://binx101.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/445_burning_money.jpg
ih8vtec13
05-27-2009, 08:07 PM
Random thread bump is random
havanisda
05-27-2009, 08:24 PM
Random thread bump is randomR u near the Baahhhston area?
ih8vtec13
05-28-2009, 11:43 AM
lol no
havanisda
05-28-2009, 01:27 PM
Nvm, I was tryin 2 find some1 on here that attended the "WBM".
ih8vtec13
05-28-2009, 10:39 PM
i am a Sox fan though :lol:
havanisda
05-28-2009, 11:09 PM
Yea, I think that's why I thought that cuz u used 2 have their logo as your avy here or on .com or both. :D
ih8vtec13
05-29-2009, 08:34 AM
It still is on .com, I think i need need a new Avatar :lol:
Dookie
05-29-2009, 12:31 PM
YMV is "Wide enough"
:lol:
ih8vtec13
05-29-2009, 06:05 PM
Dookie is wide enough according to the boys in San Fran!!!! :lol:
Dookie
05-29-2009, 06:28 PM
And how would you know about the boys from San Fran?:rolleyes:
havanisda
05-29-2009, 06:33 PM
http://thetrendytadpole.com/blog/uploaded_images/dookie300-744229.gif
http://a4.vox.com/6a00d09e5193ebbe2b00e398ac9a9c0001-500pi
http://rlv.zcache.com/you_smell_like_dookie_tshirt-p235346488474533386q6yv_400.jpg
http://www.defsounds.com/media/2110/2134/12002/asset.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HegULDzBPKw/ST3BudwgJCI/AAAAAAAACrI/u62QE98aa0Y/s320/dookie.png
ih8vtec13
05-29-2009, 06:43 PM
And how would you know about the boys from San Fran?:rolleyes:
I traced your IP address and hacked your email. You really are a twisted F**K, the s**t you request on craigslist is disturbing.
Dookie
05-30-2009, 11:01 AM
:lol: :lol: Hopefully that would teach you a lesson from hacking into my system.
ih8vtec13
05-30-2009, 01:11 PM
yes your email can not be unseen :(
I want to go wide.
But not sure if being lowered on Tein STechs will allow me to go safely.
I want the wheel/tire to pretty much sit flush with the other body panels... like yoours
http://www.legacygt.org/forums/showpost.php?p=15549&postcount=49
Or like this...
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rfFArAPchmc/SmA7tSt4BMI/AAAAAAAAAGA/4916qiEQ2Uc/s800/advan7%20%28CreoSTi%2018x8.5%20%2B48%202354018%29. jpg
http://www.legacygt.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=524&stc=1&d=1247821237
So... i am thinking... 235's should be wide enough for just daily driving, and the once in a while spirited driving, but i never auto-x or track it.
and the wheel should be 17x8 or 18x8 (no difference in how flush it will look right?) with +45 to +50 offset? I am leaning more toards +45 cuz that will make the wheel stick out more... right?
Ugh... would like some professional advise.
edit: if i could even attach a picture...
havanisda
07-17-2009, 02:43 AM
and the wheel should be 17x8 or 18x8 (no difference in how flush it will look right?) with +45 to +50 offset? I am leaning more toards +45 cuz that will make the wheel stick out more... right?
Yes & yes. The lower the offset # the more it will protrude. WB.
http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/han_solo.jpg
=D
But.... do you think I will rub when going with them?
Dookie
07-17-2009, 08:43 AM
Have a wheel/tire shop fit one to your car and see what it looks like. If it's a little wide you can roll the fenders.
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